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Sai Yuen, sy@hotmail.org
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It is quite obvious to me at a glance that an naive American has posted the entire news report of The Australian Newspaper, titled: China is endanger its intersts. I find this article to be not only totally biased but based on a series of half-truths, assumptions and melodramatic speculations. True, one wouldn't find a non-partisan Australian to stick to the facts of this incident and add flavour of salt and paper would make it more acceptable to the Americans. Don't forget dear readers, Australians and New Zealanders come under the nuclear umbrella of the self-inflated United States. As I would recall that Dr. Mahathir Mohamad, Prime Minister of Malaysia is quite critical of the Americans because they are intrusive, offensive and attempt to interfere in Malaysian politics and question its judicial system. This another example of black mark against the Americans for constantly interferring in Asia. No wonder they are neither welcomed nor accepted. China is only trying to mind its own business and is innocently thrusted into the eye of the American storm. China is not endangering its interest in this case nor attempting to endangering interest of other nations. China is acting normally in defense of its legitimate rights a free nation and uphold its dignity and honour amongs the family of nations. Is it wrong for China to question the hegemonic and expasionist policy of the United States when the latter is sending a full scale spy mission into the environs of China? In fact Australia and nations of the Pacific should be glad that China is standing up to challenge the neighbourhood bully in the form of United States.I say it once and say it for all times that China is only defending its own rights, nothing more or less. So there should be no confusion here who is right (China) and who is wrong (United States). If shove comes to push, China in upholding its national honour and dignity would not care what the future might bring. Persistent threats of military and economic sanctions against China wouldn't work because she is the innocent party. United States is welcome to do what it thinks is "right" to protect its interests and that goes for the same with China. Don't expect China to give in an inch in handling this U.S. spy venture. China has the inalienatable rights to detain and question the spy crew members, investigate the spy aircraft and demand an official apology from the George Bush government. It is up to Bush to respond because this football is in his court. China can take its time to settle the pressing issue to its satisfaction. China is in no hurry or ever will to please United States nor the biased media in Australia, and for that matter the whole Western press. China wouldn't work under pressure from any group or nation, no, not even the imperialistic United States. China knows it is right in this incident. No amount of media lies and fabrications would alter the crucial fact is that this American spy plane plus the spy crew is on a mission to illegal gather state secrets on China, and China and her people are angry and resentful of this diabolic and unfriendly actions. China is truly disappointed and disillusion that United States while holding an olive branch of peace is in real fact trying to undermine the national security of China. Will China and her people ever trust the crafty United States again after it has done such cowardly and dastardly acts of wholesale espionage on a friendly and peaceful nation? Give me a break, George Bush!!!
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Carrie Zhang, fortronape@yahoo.com
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As a Chinese, now I do realize what's a strong China means to us more than ever. The only reason America dear to bully us is they have power and money to count on. We all should not just be outraged, we should devote ourself to the development of China to be a more powerful country. That doesn't meant to say we want to behave as same as American. We don't want to intimidate anyone. That's just the only way we could show to the world that China love peace but will never beg for it!
A Chinese in Beijing
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xuli Ong, ong1@hongkong.com
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"I would like to ask all Chinese one question:
Can you survive without the WTO, 2008 Olympic and MFN status so called granted from the USA???? (who are they anyway - a bunch of babarians without manners)"
Of course, we can! Frankly, I think China would be better off in the long term without the WTO and the MFN. China should be more self-reliant and develop its own internal market which will be more than 5 times the American GDP when fully developed. So WTO and MFN are only important in the near future anyway. In 20 years and beyond, world trade will be only a small fraction of China's total economy. So in the long term, it is better for China to concentrate on developing the internal economy as soon as possible and as much as possible.
The Olympics is even less important than either WTO or MFN. It is good to have the Olympics because it will give the world a chance to be better introduced to China. But tens of millions of foreigners are already visiting China. So Olympics is totally inconsequential to China's development. It is good if we can have it. But it is less than a mosquito bite if we don't.
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Christy, cledet@lsu.edu
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Enough already!!! America should not be spying, neither should any other nation, but everyone knows that every nation does it. How many Chinese pilots have to be killed in this fruitless fight? There are safer ways to deter spying and they start with communication.
The US and China have to break down the barriers of mistrust that separate them. If the two nations can speak face to face and pursue diplomatic solutions to this conflict, it will not be necessary for these pilots to flirt with disaster and risk their lives to prove a point. The whole thing is nothing but a test of wills, with neither country wanting to be the one to admit fault and let go of this unfounded hatred that is stopping advancement towards peace and economic cooperation between the two. Both need to accept that there may not be such a clear solution. NEITHER COUNTRY IS RIGHT.
The US should not have to apologize, but they should have to explain. SO SHOULD THE CHINESE. Each plane was too close to the other, and we need to find out what happened. If the Chinese want to investigate, wonderful, the US wants to investigate too. But the best way to get to that point is NOT by holding the American crew in a hostile situation and demanding things that America is simply to obstinate to give. All that does is make both sides less willing to resolve the issue. Let's get past the bullying and move towards a more mature, peaceful, and rational long-term solution to the unease between these two nations.
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Commander, a@a.com
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People forget a major factor in every situation. Although many would hate to admit it, the US is a world superpower and has halped many parties and people around the world. If it was for political gain or otherwise is another question, but without the US, many good things couldn't have happened.
China, for one, relies on the US. Although I am Chinese and feel symphatetic to the leaders and for the people, I lothe those who blindly say "I hate America and think it should say sorry and go to hell." This is nothing but proof of ignorance and inability to assimilate and organise information.
China depends on the US for trade. TO get into the WTO, it needs the US. The US dictates many issues and because of the hardline issues that have come out, Congress is voting to say sorry that they ever passed the latest trade bill to China. Great move.
But if China's leaders were not to take such a harsh stance, this would be a sign of weakness that their political opponents would strive to exploit. It's a double edged sword - there is no winner in this situation.
The only way this issue will be resolved is by allowing it to slowly die away. And if the truth ever comes out, let's not blindly fingerpoint again. All sides carry out espionage.
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Bahe Jushi, cmlaw@public2.east.net.cn
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If this time we return the spy plane and the 24 crew members without confiscating the spy plane, and without puting the 24 U.S. crew members on criminal trial for espianage charge, I believe that in future a hundred more U.S. spy planes will conduct such reconnaissance mission along Chinese coast, even make overflight into Chinese territorial space. Even a thousand more will come.
Therefore, we Chinese people strongly demand that (1) the U.S. spy plane be confiscated immediately to compensate our F-8 fighter loss; (2) a public criminal proceedings against the 24 U.S. spy plane crew members be started immediately to sentence the military spies. Only after they are duly sentenced, may the Chinese government decide, depending on if the U.S. government makes formal apology to Chinese people, to expel the convicted U.S. crew members. Those U.S. crew members should not be allowed to leave China without a proper criminal trial. After all, they are not tourists, right? We would be making serious mistake if we let them go easily, with just another excuse.
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Louis Tournier, elceetee@hotmail.com
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Sir/Madam:
This letter is not being written with a predisposed bias on my part against the Peoples Republic of China. I have always felt an affinity with the people of China.
In this instance, however, The Peoples Republic of China is portraying itself as a schoolyard bully. Notwithstanding the mid-air collision of the airplanes involved, it should be considered a basic and common courtesy for China to grant emergency landing rights to any aircraft in trouble. For the PRC to broadcast to the world that the US aircraft violated Chinese airspace, is seen, quite rightly, as a childish and petty gesture. If the PRC wishes to be able to be welcomed into the international community, then its leaders must realize that not everyone in the world can be deceived by propaganda.
As to the mid-air collision, it takes a huge stretch of the imagination to believe that any aircraft would intentionally crash itself into another airplane. It is apparent to me that the Chinese aircraft caused the accident in its efforts to change the course of the US airplane away from the Chinese coastline.
People here in Canada and indeed the world have a very low tolerance towards a nation that uses hostage taking as a means of expressing their dissatisfaction with another nations policies.
And make no mistake, this childish gangsterism is being recognized by the world for what it is, a blackmailing ploy.
Yours very truly,
Louis Tournier
Rocky Mountain House
Alberta, Canada
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chris, chris@themail.com
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According to Merriam-Webster, the definition of "Spy" is 'to watch secretly usually for hostile purposes'.
With that in mind, I think it is inappropriate to call these aircraft "Spy Planes". Perhaps a better definition would be "surveillance planes". They do have highly sensitive listening devices, but they are out in the open, not in spy mode. If the US wanted to listen in secret, they'd simply send a stealth plane. (Which has probably already been done).
As far as China sending fighter jets to warn the E3's away, this is a dispute that will NOT be settled as long as the REST OF THE WORLD does not recognize what China thinks is their territorial waters. So, they will continue scrambling interceptors. If they keep sending these fighters out, then the US will eventually send escort fighters. Sooner or later this will escalate into something far more than an accidental collision. Which is what this whole thing is about: AN ACCIDENT.
Now, if the Chinese sent a similiar surveillance to the waters off the US coast, the US government would have a fit! The US population wouldn't stand for it and I can garauntee they would send interceptors with no hesitation. As a US citizen I can acknowledge China's right to send these intercept fighters. If I didn't I would be a hypocrite.
The only solutions that I can see are either for China to recognize that these are international waters, or for the US to stop sending these surviellance planes. I don't think either is going to happen, but one never knows. In the end, it will probably take a lot more than one tragic death for any of this to come to an end.
That's my opinion, for what it's worth.
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Peter, na@na.com
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How can China possibly believe that the United States would purposefully crash the Chinese fighter? I am sorry for the loss of life, but if China is looking for an outright admission of guilt by the US, then they are clinging to an unrealistic pipe dream. Why should the United States apologize for something that has not been proven is their fault? Why is China determined to provoke the United States? To me, this is just a sad attempt by a developing country to show that they can stand with the world powers. Obviously, from the childish way they are acting, China is not ready.
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